Rumi’s Brilliant Question to Shamz Tabraiz

mevlana rumi portrait

Mevlana Rumi Portrait


There are several accounts of the first spiritual meeting between Mevlana Rumi and Shams Tabraiz, as seen in our earlier post.

Shams was an accomplished mystic, whereas Rumi was renowned as a great religious scholar of his time. Shams immediately won Rumi’s heart via his ability to bend the laws of nature as he destroyed Rumi books on Fiqah and reinstated them. However, Rumi was wise to know that such feats were merely acrobatics in absence of real spiritual knowledge.

Rumi question to Shams was truly exceptional. It was aimed to determine whether Shams was a true guide or not

He asked, “Hazrat Bayazid Bastami , one of the greatest of mystics, proclaimed Subhani Aazam Shanee i.e. how great is my glory (of spiritual station) in Tusawaf. Yet Prophet Muhammad SAW did 70 istaghfars every day. How can we align such statements since by logic these (naozibillah) show superiority of Bistami over Muhammad SAW”.

Shams responded, “Bistami reached a great station but became stationary. He couldn’t see beyond his station and hence praised his glory. Whereas Muhammad SAW elevated 70 stations everyday. When he saw a lower level from a higher level he said istaghfars for considering previous the level an epitome of his stations. Muhammad SAW’s journey to stations of glory is endless.”

When Rumi heard this, he realized he has found the spiritual mentor he has been seeking for long.


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